"What would you like? You’re almost 40!” Stories of Russians who are not hired because of their age

At 40, life, of course, is just beginning, but good work ends. According to the Headhunter portal, every fifth employer is not ready to hire an employee who is over 45 years old for any position. This is confirmed by researchers from the National Research University Higher School of Economics. They found out that after 45 years, Russians’ wages decrease by about 20 percent.

And we are not talking about housewives who decided to earn extra money when the children grew up and finally had free time. Established professionals with experience and experience are under attack. We offer several sad stories that confirm this rule.

Olga, 47 years old: “They didn’t even hire me for the position of a simple designer”

In May 2009, I was fired from my post as chief artist of a large publishing house. I was not loyal to the then management, who constantly delayed salaries. There was a crisis, so almost all the managers were fired from our publishing house.

I was 39 years old, my portfolio included approximately 2,000 book covers and extensive experience in magazine layout. My works were on the shelves in every bookstore in the country. Of course, I was sure that I would find a suitable job quickly. However, it turned out that my resume was greatly spoiled by age. It would seem, what is 39 years for a specialist with experience like mine? Moreover, I myself avoided vacancies for leadership positions: I always liked working on my own more than commanding someone. Moreover, given the crisis, I asked for a salary half as much as the one I left with. But in all the vacancies that I was at least somehow interested in, there was an age limit of 35-40 years, and the team was “young and energetic.”

I sent out a bunch of letters, but the response was silence or refusals. Someone wrote: “We have a young team, you won’t fit in.” I was desperate. I felt young, fast, open to new things, ready to make good, professional design, but it turned out to be unnecessary. I understood that young people can be paid less and are easier to manipulate. But shouldn’t my experience, my professionalism have outweighed my age? I wasn’t even hired as a regular designer. I went to the employment service, but even there they shrugged: “What do you want? You’re almost 40!”

A year later, I finally found a job as a layout designer at a publishing house that produced illustrated magazines. In my department, I turned out to be the oldest, and only I had a specialized education. I felt like an ancient fossil. Even my experience did not help, but rather prevented me from relaxing. I remained a stranger in that place. I managed to hold out for about a year, and then went freelance.

I'm very glad we left. In Austria, for example, people under 50 years of age are considered young, and salaries peak at this same age. The attitude of those around you is appropriate. Therefore, now, two years after my arrival, I again feel young, cheerful and open to new things.

They don't hire

Advice from lawyers:

1. Cookies don’t hire me.

1.1. Check your questions before posting….which cookie is the question.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

Consultation on your issue

8

Calls from landlines and mobiles are free throughout Russia

2. They haven’t been hired for 55 years; the employment center suggests deregistering Irina Tyumen.

2.1. If you cannot get a job through the employment center and they issue you an appropriate conclusion, you can contact the Pension Fund with it and apply for early accrual of an old-age pension.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

3. In 2007, I had a criminal record under Article 158, but now they won’t hire me, why?

3.1. Because there is a criminal record.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

3.2. They think that you can steal something, so they don’t take it.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

3.3. Because you had a criminal record in 2007. In many cases, a cleared and expunged criminal record is also an obstacle to occupying certain positions (civil service, working with children, financially responsible positions, for example).

Did the answer help you?YesNo

4. A friend of mine stupidly had an offense for petty theft; she and her boyfriend took out a couple of bottles of wine and paid for one. They gave me a fine of 1000 rubles, the fine was paid. She hasn't been hired for a year now. What should I do? Is this the reason for the SB failure?!

4.1. Officially no, but the Employer’s internal requirements may be different. You can file a claim in court for employment discrimination.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

5. Worked in a store. She was fired because she didn't show up for work. I didn’t go to work because I had a fever... First of all. Secondly, my boss (who is also a cashier) repeatedly took money from the cash register, I don’t know for what purpose and for what purpose, whether there was permission for this from higher authorities. Thirdly, a very rude attitude towards their employees. What can be done in this case?

5.1. If you did not go to a medical facility, you will not be able to prove that you were sick.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

6. Go back to work in a month after maternity leave for up to 3 years. They won’t take me back, how to quit? Should I go to the stock exchange?

6.1. Hello. During the period of maternity leave until the child reaches 3 years of age, the woman retains her place of work. Therefore, refusing you is yours. the employer violates your rights, which means that the century. You have the right to protect your interests by all legal means. For more detailed consultation, you can contact me in private messages, I will be happy to help you.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

7. While on vacation 07/01/20 - 07/30/20 I decided to change jobs. I received the final answer that I was being hired for a new job only on 07/28/20. I have been on sick leave since 07/24/20. Estimated date of discharge is 03/08/20. Will it be enough to write a regular resignation letter or do you need to indicate something in order to no longer return to your old job and receive payment for days of incapacity?

7.1. Hello. It is enough to write a regular application two weeks in advance.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

7.2. Hello. Write your application.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

7.3. The resignation letter is written 2 weeks before the dismissal date. If you write a statement now, you will be able to resign on August 11th. Sick leave should be extended by 7 days.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

8. I quit my job at the post office 2 months ago, today the police came to my new job and said that a package with a phone was missing and I had to return it, that they had a camera recording and a statement, but I didn’t take the phone, now after work I’ll go to police department can I ask to show me the statement and the camera footage.

8.1. If you did not take the parcel, then you have nothing to worry about, insist on your innocence. You can ask to see the application and recording, but the decision on this issue remains at the discretion of

person conducting the pre-investigation check.
He is obliged
to present the specified documents and material evidence to the accused for review
only at the end of the investigation of the criminal case.
Did the answer help you?YesNo

8.2. Now after work I will go to the police station, can I ask to see the statement and the camera footage. :sm_w: Of course, you can ASK for anything. :sm_ap: But, just remember, if you go to the police without a lawyer, they will understand that you are a “sucker.” And they have the appropriate attitude towards suckers. :sm_ad:

Did the answer help you?YesNo

9. We took out a car loan from the bank. We didn’t pay the loan for 6 months because we lost our job. The bank sued. The court ordered the collection of debt and collection of the car. Is it possible to somehow resolve the issue with the bank so that the car would not be repossessed and I would continue to pay the loan, since work was going on.

9.1. Hello. You can appeal the court's decision. 320 Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

9.2. You can enter into a settlement agreement with the bank at the stage of enforcement proceedings.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

10. I have a criminal record and was released on parole. You need to officially get a job. No matter where I apply, they don’t take me anywhere. What should I do?

10.1. Hello) Please contact the employment service.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

10.2. Solve the problem through the central control center. They hire you for unofficial work, and they even hire you as a janitor with a criminal record.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

10.3. Firstly, when released on parole, you are entitled to a one-time cash payment, as a person who finds himself in a difficult life situation. It reaches the minimum wage. The social security authority or organization pays. In Sevastopol, for example, this is done by the State Public Institution “Sevastopol City Integrated Center for Social Services” (created by the Department of Labor and Social Protection of the city). Secondly, go to the Employment Center and register as unemployed. They look for a job for you, if not, you continue to receive unemployment benefits. In addition, at the initiative of the Employment Center, you can receive free training for employment. Well, thirdly, a criminal record is not a basis for refusal of employment in a private organization. If the person is good and works, then why not take him?

Did the answer help you?YesNo

11. If the doctor says that a disability group is not required! - what to do!? Had 2 brain surgeries - a benign tumor was removed - the right half of the face is partially paralyzed! = 2 years have passed - no one is hiring - and the doctors say the group is not allowed!

11.1. Have you tried MSEC?

Did the answer help you?YesNo

11.2. Which doctor says? District police officer? The neurologist you are seeing? Although the opinion of the specialists who are observing you matters in this matter, it is not for them to decide! The presence of facial paresis is at least a reason for an MSEC examination. Usually they are sent to MSEC on the initiative of a medical institution, but you have the right to demand a referral to MSEC on your own initiative! Talk to the chief physician of the clinic or his deputy for the CER.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

12. This year I received a preferential teaching pension. A minimum pension was accrued (30 years of work experience). I have been working since 1992 (since May). In 1993-1995 I worked, and in 1996 I was on maternity leave from January to August, and I still work to this day. I would like to know which years should be taken when calculating a pension (consecutive or non-consecutive).

12.1. Hello. Personal consultation is required.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

13. My son has a heart threshold and was not accepted into the army. They don’t hire you everywhere either. If he is entitled to a group, what kind of pension is he entitled to? Where can I go to find out everything?

13.1. Hello! You should discuss all these issues with your local therapist.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

Consultation on your issue

8

Calls from landlines and mobiles are free throughout Russia

14. 20 years ago, a case was opened under Article 158 of Part Two, but then an amnesty occurred, but it remained in the database and now they don’t hire people because of it. That is, there is no criminal record. The question is, what can be done to remove it from the base?

14.1. Alas, this is not possible. Unfortunately, this information remains forever.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

14.2. Nothing, unfortunately. This information will be stored until the age of 80 years. Sincerely.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

15. When will kindergartens open? All the adults are already going to work, shift changes are over. They don’t let you go to work with children, they demand that you take them at your own expense, but what do you have to live on?

15.1. When Rospotrebnadzor in your region decides that it is safe to open kindergartens, then they will open them. No one can predict the timing for you.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

16. At work I was asked to write a letter of resignation of my own free will, I wrote and that I would be transferred to another company, I wrote a calculation, they gave me no transfer, but they have a labor record and they don’t give it back to me since there is not even a record there yet that I worked as the head of the phone It doesn’t take anything from me. It’s the second week since I’ve been sitting at home without work and without a job.

16.1. Hello Dmitry. You need to write a complaint about the location of your work to the labor inspectorate. You can also write an appeal to the local Prosecutor's Office. Sincerely, P. A. Smirnov.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

17. The ex-husband does not want to take a certificate of alimony from his work. Social security refuses to provide benefits for 3 children without this certificate. They are not satisfied with the bank statement about the receipt of alimony. The accounting department at my ex-husband’s work said that only the employee himself should take this certificate. The bailiff said that she had no information about my alimony. Is there any way out of this situation?

17.1. Hello Svetlana! Write a statement on Social. protection that they must independently request this certificate from the organization upon request. According to paragraphs. 12, 13 Basic requirements, approved. By Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated March 31, 2020 No. 384, social protection authorities themselves require the necessary information.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

18. We moved from another country 10 years ago. My husband did not register with the military registration and enlistment office (he is 40) and there was no need for this. Nowadays they don’t hire military personnel, or rather there is no stamp on it that is registered. What happens if you haven’t stood anywhere for 10 years? And can they not register?

18.1. The following categories of applicants are accepted into the organization only if they have a military ID:

Persons liable for military service.
These are men of conscription age (from 18 to 27 years old). Based on the provided ticket, a report on the employment of the person liable for military service is compiled. The paper is sent to the military registration and enlistment office. Men over 27 years old. For these individuals, conscription age is over. However, they must still provide the document. On its basis, a personal card is issued in the T-2 form. This card contains information about military registration. Persons in reserve. These are persons from 50 to 65 years old who have a rank that requires them to be in the reserve. An employee cannot hide information about his rank from the employer. This is essential information that must be disclosed upon employment. Let him go and register.
Did the answer help you?YesNo

19. I took out a loan from Sovcombank in 2020, at the beginning I paid it off, then it was not possible, I was on maternity leave, now I went back to work, I want to repay the loan, but there was a large amount of money, my cards and accounts were arrested, how can I do it in order to pay it off? the debt is as much as it was taken out. Where to contact?

19.1. Hello, contact the bank itself, they will give you a calculation of payments and interest calculations and you can repay. Unfortunately, you haven’t paid interest yet and you will have to pay that too.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

20. I had a debt in Tenkov Bank, I took out a loan in 2011, Spanish. the proceedings were carried out by the FSSP, the bailiff in 2020 in March terminated my case, lifted all arrests, because... I can’t pay, I don’t have a job, I have to take care of my child. And tonight Phoenix LLC arrested all my accounts, alimony, child benefits, all accounts were withdrawn at 0. Is their action legal? On the FSSP website I don’t have any active proceedings, there are only discontinued cases.

20.1. Obviously, a new court order was issued, and the claimant submitted it directly to the bank for execution.

Did the answer help you?YesNo

I am on sick leave. They don’t take a blood sample; the doctors said we don’t meet the criteria.

I work as an ambulance driver. Gor. Tobolsk, Tyumen region.

I'm a postman. I was asked to work for the postmaster. But the boss came to my work.

My brother was born in 1960, he has worked in different sharashkas for the last 15 years, he has a work record, but the records are all old...

They hire you to work at a youth sports school as a trainer-teacher. Classes start on September 1, and now they offer medical classes.

I'm being laid off. I go to work 2/3 of the average. They want to make me responsible for the workshop.

I have been working in a pharmacy since 2013, the working conditions have become worse and worse, I have health problems, and they are not allowed to take sick leave.

A penalty was accrued for late obligations to the supplier under Federal Law 44. The supplier writes a letter stating that he completed part of the work on time (this was provided by the project documentation)

Because of my criminal record they don’t hire me. I’m 30 years old and have many specialties. I do not know what to do? Why is that? Although the president himself said that they should take everyone.

The son got married on July 11, 2020. We want to buy them an apartment with a mortgage with our matchmakers. The daughter-in-law doesn’t have any work experience yet, and her son, a student, doesn’t have much income at work either.

I’m 18 years old and they don’t give me a military ID at the military registration and enlistment office, because of this they don’t officially hire me,

Nikolai, 49 years old: “Nobody needs me”

I have two higher educations - civil engineering and law, I am 49 years old, and, by and large, no one needs me. He worked as a legal consultant in banks, construction organizations, and as an assistant to the general director for legal matters. At my last job at the electric grid company, where I was the chief design and survey specialist, there were three layoffs within a year. I fell under the second two months ago.

After 45 years of age, resumes are not considered. I sent 400 responses to Headhunter. More than half were provided with cover letters. Nobody reads them. I don’t understand what the problem is: the photo shows my face, it’s not a monkey, my age and desired salary are also indicated. I removed the last one. I thought maybe they were looking at her. But I don’t even get to interviews.

Twice a day I send two forms - one engineering, the other legal. It seemed to me that two degrees would be an advantage. At the end of the 80s, construction died down, and for twenty years engineers were not in demand, but now there is a demand. It’s the same with lawyers – before there were few of them, now there are a lot of them. And there won't be enough work for everyone.

In the 90s, they didn’t take anyone over 35. That’s exactly how the age restrictions were written. Now they have banned me from writing like that, but they simply don’t invite me to an interview. Only a quarter of employers answer: “You are not suitable for us.” The rest are ignored.

My friend is five years younger than me. Before the crisis, he was the general director of a large company, after which he spent two years looking for work. Everyone shrugged their shoulders and said that the experience was too cool and they couldn’t offer anything good. He eventually took a course and now makes wooden stairs.

Marina, 54 years old: “The old ones won’t fly”

Photo: tourweek.ru

I first encountered this problem at forty-nine. I am a flight attendant, I have a huge work experience of more than thirty years. In 2012, I had to fly to New York and applied for an American visa. However, when the document was already ready, I was unexpectedly removed from the flight.

Later it turned out that our management decided to allow only flight attendants under 45 years of age to fly to America. How were we informed about this decision? No way. They said: “The old ones won’t fly.” They also introduced a list of “priority” flights on which young, slender beauties were taken. By the way, they were the only ones who could work in business class.

The situation really affected me. It was very disappointing, because I don’t feel old at all. I look really good, I’m 162 centimeters tall, I weigh 53 kilograms, I play sports. I always went to work with the attitude: I won’t have a second chance to make a good impression. I thought through my image down to the smallest detail: hairstyle, manicure, shoes - absolutely everything. During my work there was not a single complaint against me, only gratitude from passengers and gifts. On flights I was often asked for my phone number for dating.

However, this did not stop management from writing me off as scrap. When we first started working, we were told: “You’re still young to fly in business class, gain experience in economy.” And now in business there are girls who joined the airline less than a year ago. It’s still hard for them themselves, they are afraid of passengers. We often had to help and advise them, because on the flight we are all one team. Passengers should not suffer from the innovations of our management.

If you fly to Tokyo for a day, the salary will be several times different from what you will get for a flight to Magadan. But you were provided with a job - be grateful. And if you start seeking justice, they will plan you in such a way that you will envy the dead. My work friends, who were a little younger and, in my opinion, also deserved to fly priority flights, did not want to support me - to go to a reception with the top management of the company.

However, life did not end there; I continued to fly on regular flights. Only once did I try to get priority permission. I wrote a statement addressed to the head of the service saying that I wanted to fly to Beijing. I came to him, and he sent me to the orders department. I said with a smile: “They say it’s old.” He replied: “What, did the young woman come to me?” This kind of bad manners simply amazed me.

After a couple of years I quit. It was hard: I loved my job, I couldn’t imagine how I could live differently. They say that at 45 years old life is just beginning - for me it began at 50. Old age will definitely not find me at home. I lead an active lifestyle, I love fitness and skiing, watching football and traveling a lot. I try to go to the theater, cinema, and festivals more often. I follow fashion. My son considers me very modern and advanced. Now the main thing for me is that I am surrounded by the love of loved ones and do not regret my love for them.

Alexey, 42 years old: “The feeling that I’m already old doesn’t go away”

At 41, I had to look for a new job. Now I am 42, and the search continues to this day. I have extensive experience in sales - 19 years. However, despite this, there were almost no responses to the resume where my age was indicated. Then they advised me to remove the date of birth from the questionnaire - I did so. The number of responses and invitations for interviews immediately increased. But at the very first interview, when the HR specialist found out my age, he lowered his eyes and said: “We’ll call you back.” Nobody, naturally, called back.

I am not looking for a position at any particular level, I am considering different options. He was an ordinary salesperson, a department head, a deputy director, and a general director of a large company. Currently, candidates no older than 30 years are hired for entry-level sales positions. Thirty-five is the ceiling. There are ten times fewer vacancies for managerial positions. As a result, I have been looking for a job for 10 months without success.

It happened several times that during an interview, HR managers’ eyes lit up and they organized a meeting for me with the director or owner. Like, look what an experienced little animal I dug up for you. But the hired directors obviously saw me as a competitor or some kind of threat. The owners said that it was very interesting to talk with me, but there was no place for me, and I would get bored in a low position. They need a nimble guy of about twenty-five years old, preferably with a mortgage, who will fly like an electric broom.

I noticed that HR specialists think that it is difficult or even impossible to rehabilitate a person over 40. That he will not bend to accepted corporate standards, will not be energetic and active. Preference is given to youth over experience. But I don’t feel any negative feelings towards my young competitors at all. It’s just that my personal self-esteem has dropped a lot lately. It seems that no one needs me, and this is very unpleasant.

I don't despair, I don't give up. I had the opportunity to communicate with very interesting people - business owners, and I learned a lot of new things. I think everything should work out for me: water wears away stones. But the feeling that I’m already old still doesn’t go away, and yet nothing like this existed a year ago.

GuruTest

No matter what official statistics tell us (they say that the unemployment rate is under control and generally not too high), almost every person who bothered to look for a job probably had to fail at an interview. It would seem that there are jobs, but for some reason they are not hiring.

After the next “we’ll call you back,” which usually means a veiled refusal, the vast majority of applicants become despondent: well, they’ve refused again! Everything in a row is considered as possible reasons for failure: a degree from the wrong university, all the vacancies here were purchased, and the manager himself does not know what and who he wants...

Such factors, of course, can affect your success in an interview, but they are not the only reason for failure. We found out that there are two not very obvious reasons why you were not hired again.

Reason one: unkempt appearance

Speaking about the appearance suitable for successfully passing any interview, many imagine the standard set of a future office worker: white top, dark bottom, or, in extreme cases, a gray suit.

The choice of colors, of course, is important (unless you are trying to get a job in a company where the manager appears in a T-shirt and jeans), but it is equally important to monitor the condition of the clothes: the recruiter may be put off not so much by the style and color of your outfit, but by the stains , holes, pellets, the smell of sweat or the condition of the nails.

An unkempt, unkempt appearance could very well be a reason for failure in an interview, so next time you have the choice of wearing a dirty but dress shirt with a collar or a clean T-shirt, please wear a T-shirt: it will increase your chances of success.

Reason two: inability to communicate with a recruiter

For some reason, many still believe that the age of a recruiter is precisely the parameter by which he should be assessed as a professional: a young girl will never be able to fully recognize all the advantages of a certain middle-aged Vasily, even if he came to get a job as a promoter or a plumber.

However, even the fact that you were able to remember basic respect for a personnel employee does not guarantee success at the interview: get ready to learn about other communication secrets that will help you achieve the desired position.

It is better to get rid of shyness, if you have such a quality, long before the interview. The point here is this: no matter how excellent your resume is, no matter what prestigious university you studied at, the hiring manager may be quite surprised by the fact that you cannot squeeze out a single word during the interview. Having tried to compare your excellent resume and you, stuttering a little, alternately blushing and turning pale, falling into a stupor from not the most difficult questions, the poor fellow simply risks experiencing severe cognitive dissonance, which, by definition, cannot end in anything good for you personally.

The reasons for failure at an interview are not always the inappropriate education, experience or age of the candidate: in the vast majority of cases, people receive a refusal, including an innocuous promise to call back, because of mere trifles that could easily have been avoided.

No matter how much we would like to believe in inner beauty, we shouldn’t completely forget about appearance: as we know, people are greeted by their clothes. If you are nervous before an interview, try to pay a little more attention to your appearance: for example, you can dress in the morning so that the whole day will be successful. We believe that a gift from Lady Fortune on such an important day will definitely not be superfluous.

Tell us what you think: what other interview mistakes, in your opinion, could be the cause of failure? What secrets do you have that help you successfully pass even the most difficult interviews?

Our Yandex.Zen channel always has the most interesting articles on this topic. Be sure to subscribe!

21.10.2018 03:44

Rating
( 2 ratings, average 4.5 out of 5 )
Did you like the article? Share with friends:
For any suggestions regarding the site: [email protected]
Для любых предложений по сайту: [email protected]